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Re: Truth

Post by Eduk » December 7th, 2018, 5:02 am

@chewybrian too many genius moments to pick from ☺️
@Newme thank you counsel 😊 I like the santa naughty and nice list.
Too many arguments on this forum are false dichotomies.
Then again we must always be careful not to commit the fallacy fallacy.
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h_k_s
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Re: Truth

Post by h_k_s » December 7th, 2018, 3:31 pm

Newme wrote:
December 6th, 2018, 6:14 pm
h_k_s wrote:
December 1st, 2018, 8:48 pm
Congrats @Eduk . For the commission of the fallacy of verbosity you will get to be my alpha-test of the foe function. I generally weed people out based on the fallacies they commit.
Has this forum been updated with the newest logical fallacy filter or identifier?
If not, who would like the job?

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So did you just butt into a conversation, no pun intended ?!

On this forum the iggy function works off the enemy list. It is very easy to utilize.

I do not tolerate lies, damn lies, statistics, sophistry nor fallacies.

Aristotle's list of fallacies is a good starting point for everyone.

These lists get extremely long in modern 21st Century versions. Stanford University and even Wikipedia have multi page fallacy lists.

Everyone needs to know all of them.

You also need to.

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Re: Truth

Post by h_k_s » December 7th, 2018, 3:33 pm

jkim0231 wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 10:03 am
I have a question. What is philosophy(non-rhetorical)? It seems to be that it is a pursuit of something that is less false? (something similar)

For example, I had a chance to read the introduction to Sartre's Being and Nothingness. He explained the theory that an object's true essence being beyond the manifestations of the object had embarrassed modern philosophy for its critical problems, and that the new way for philosophers came to consider this essence was to see it as the whole of all it's manifestations. (example of pursuit of some kind of better theories)

Maybe I have the wrong notion for "truth" for this thread, but is not truth something that can be verified? But as I read in this thread, I understand how truth may not be verified but by language, but then confirmation by belief seems persuading too. Then what is it that philosophers pursue, when they formulate and publish their thoughts? Is it something different from what I asked above? That they pursue something that better explain topics in their field? If with the belief that truth is an aspect of language, what are philosophers that believe this in pursuing?

From this it seems that acknowledgement of some apple by a monkey-man leads him to grab it and eat it, had "truth" anything to do in this incident(without me intervening to talk about it)?

As I wrote, some ideas tossed in this thread became more clear. I've been regurgitating on them, but any input will be welcome.
Youre going to need to read more than just one book to get a sense of what philosophy is.

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Re: Truth

Post by h_k_s » December 7th, 2018, 3:35 pm

Newme wrote:
December 6th, 2018, 6:36 pm
Eduk wrote:
December 6th, 2018, 6:26 pm
@Newme it reminds me of homer saying 'takes one to know one'.
Yes. :)
For this moment, I’ll sub in as logical fallacy judge...
Eduk, I hereby drop the charges of you committing logical fallacy.
Defendent merely posted comments maybe because it wasn’t referenced yo anyone but as a general comment.
Then plaintiff insisted people must always be speaking to one person and suggested that anyone who didn’t like it was going to be on his naughty list.

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Re: Truth

Post by jkim0231 » Yesterday, 11:43 am

h_k_s wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 3:33 pm
jkim0231 wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 10:03 am
I have a question. What is philosophy(non-rhetorical)? It seems to be that it is a pursuit of something that is less false? (something similar)

For example, I had a chance to read the introduction to Sartre's Being and Nothingness. He explained the theory that an object's true essence being beyond the manifestations of the object had embarrassed modern philosophy for its critical problems, and that the new way for philosophers came to consider this essence was to see it as the whole of all it's manifestations. (example of pursuit of some kind of better theories)

Maybe I have the wrong notion for "truth" for this thread, but is not truth something that can be verified? But as I read in this thread, I understand how truth may not be verified but by language, but then confirmation by belief seems persuading too. Then what is it that philosophers pursue, when they formulate and publish their thoughts? Is it something different from what I asked above? That they pursue something that better explain topics in their field? If with the belief that truth is an aspect of language, what are philosophers that believe this in pursuing?

From this it seems that acknowledgement of some apple by a monkey-man leads him to grab it and eat it, had "truth" anything to do in this incident(without me intervening to talk about it)?

As I wrote, some ideas tossed in this thread became more clear. I've been regurgitating on them, but any input will be welcome.
Youre going to need to read more than just one book to get a sense of what philosophy is.

I mentioned some lines in the book to explain my question. My question is not "what is philosophy?" My question regards the topic of the thread.

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Re: Truth

Post by h_k_s » Yesterday, 9:57 pm

jkim0231 wrote:
Yesterday, 11:43 am
h_k_s wrote:
December 7th, 2018, 3:33 pm

Youre going to need to read more than just one book to get a sense of what philosophy is.

I mentioned some lines in the book to explain my question. My question is not "what is philosophy?" My question regards the topic of the thread.
Writing (posts) requires special skills to avoid confusion.

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