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Please help me find a quote from Plato. We'll discuss it later.

Post by abcd » November 10th, 2019, 6:10 am

Hi. I was reading Plato: Complete Works (edited by John M. Cooper) years ago and came across a sentence/sentences like this: The masses believe whatever they hear on the street. The aim of education is to raise us above that level so that we don’t believe whatever we hear on the street.
Of course this is my paraphrase, but I don’t think I stray from the original text too much. Now I don’t remember the exact words of Plato or which work these words come from. I’m writing something now and I really want to quote this; so could someone help me find where it is? If you don’t know where the quote comes from, I’d also appreciate similar quotes from Plato or other famous philosophers or intellectuals. Thank you.
Please don’t delete this post because this is not just a help-me post. I’ll discuss this quote with others after I locate it. Thank you so much.

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Re: Please help me find a quote from Plato. We'll discuss it later.

Post by Steve3007 » November 10th, 2019, 5:20 pm

The masses believe whatever they hear on the street. The aim of education is to raise us above that level so that we don’t believe whatever we hear on the street.
This sounds like a general description of Plato's view of democracy (as it existed in his time in Athens) expressed in the Republic. His famous "Ship of State" metaphor has the masses depicted as the shortsighted owner of the ship who knows very little about seamanship. Maybe look at Book 6 of the Republic.
If you don’t know where the quote comes from, I’d also appreciate similar quotes from Plato or other famous philosophers or intellectuals.
How about Churchill:
The best argument against Democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
Although apparently it's far from certain that he actually said this. But as the director John Ford famously said:
When you have to choose between history and legend, print the legend.
Although apparently it's far from certain that he actually said this.

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