Moral Faith and the Highest Good

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Moral Faith and the Highest Good

Post by Wesgtr » January 12th, 2020, 9:21 pm

Moral Faith and the Highest Good: Kant's Critical Philosophy

My understanding of Kant through a recent source, and my own readings, is that he has a crucial idea of ‘moral faith’. It is crucial for the entire critical system. Kant introduces the idea that the ‘highest good’ must be attained, but in order for it to be possessed one must postulate it. In order for it to be sought, it must postulated ‘a priori’. By ‘a priori’, a few things may be meant, yet I subscribe to the ‘tacit knowledge’ version of it, suggesting that by the reasonable fact that knowledge is innate. I would say in line with others Kant was Platonic in that knowledge is discoverable: it is built in at least to a degree, and it pertains to our knowledge of other things. For example, universal laws of nature for the sake of mathematics and science. This would give an important place to mathematics and science. Yet, what my interests lend me to is the necessity of ‘moral faith’ for his entire system. He would say that everyone follows the ‘moral law’ and that because of this law we are required to ‘do unto others’ to some degree. For me, It is a little cloudy after the part about everybody: he does say, however, that Christians believe further than simply the laws of morality. So, I found that pretty interesting, reminding me of a dream I had as a child, in which I discussed with my dad the philosophical ideas I had and that they could relate to some sort of helpful system.

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Re: Moral Faith and the Highest Good

Post by h_k_s » January 12th, 2020, 10:14 pm

Wesgtr wrote:
January 12th, 2020, 9:21 pm
Moral Faith and the Highest Good: Kant's Critical Philosophy

My understanding of Kant through a recent source, and my own readings, is that he has a crucial idea of ‘moral faith’. It is crucial for the entire critical system. Kant introduces the idea that the ‘highest good’ must be attained, but in order for it to be possessed one must postulate it. In order for it to be sought, it must postulated ‘a priori’. By ‘a priori’, a few things may be meant, yet I subscribe to the ‘tacit knowledge’ version of it, suggesting that by the reasonable fact that knowledge is innate. I would say in line with others Kant was Platonic in that knowledge is discoverable: it is built in at least to a degree, and it pertains to our knowledge of other things. For example, universal laws of nature for the sake of mathematics and science. This would give an important place to mathematics and science. Yet, what my interests lend me to is the necessity of ‘moral faith’ for his entire system. He would say that everyone follows the ‘moral law’ and that because of this law we are required to ‘do unto others’ to some degree. For me, It is a little cloudy after the part about everybody: he does say, however, that Christians believe further than simply the laws of morality. So, I found that pretty interesting, reminding me of a dream I had as a child, in which I discussed with my dad the philosophical ideas I had and that they could relate to some sort of helpful system.
Aristotle's definition of it is/was "the magnanimous man." I'm sure you have heard of it also.

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Re: Moral Faith and the Highest Good

Post by Terrapin Station » January 13th, 2020, 4:37 am

I'm not sure what you want us to address here, Wesgtr. It reads kind of like loosely structured "notes to oneself."

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Re: Moral Faith and the Highest Good

Post by h_k_s » January 14th, 2020, 7:13 am

Terrapin Station wrote:
January 13th, 2020, 4:37 am
I'm not sure what you want us to address here, Wesgtr. It reads kind of like loosely structured "notes to oneself."
Yup. Seems so.

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Re: Moral Faith and the Highest Good

Post by Newme » March 11th, 2020, 4:22 pm

Wesgtr wrote:
January 12th, 2020, 9:21 pm
...Yet, what my interests lend me to is the necessity of ‘moral faith’ for his entire system. He would say that everyone follows the ‘moral law’ and that because of this law we are required to ‘do unto others’ to some degree. For me, It is a little cloudy after the part about everybody: he does say, however, that Christians believe further than simply the laws of morality...
Socrates suggested to be more afraid of evil than death.
“Better the whole people perish than that injustice be done.” - Kant

Maybe the question is not so much if you have faith but rather if your faith is well placed. Paul Tillech defines god as one’s “ultimate concern” which everyone has - the key is developing an ultimate concern with the least idolatrous elements. Christianity has, IMO been corrupted, but if you look for symbolic truth, it can be found. The main truths I see are:
1) The importance of speaking truth (Jesus is the archetype of free speech)
2) Forgiving & loving others and ourselves
3) Life is about sacrifice - you must pay - just decide which sacrifice.
“Empty is the argument of the philosopher which does not relieve any human suffering.” - Epicurus

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