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Discuss the November 2022 Philosophy Book of the Month, In It Together: The Beautiful Struggle Uniting Us All by Eckhart Aurelius Hughes.

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By rudi dani
#461225
Success is definitely influenced by hard work and dedication, but to say it's entirely a choice ignores the role of luck. What about someone born into poverty with limited opportunities? Or someone struck by a life-altering illness that derails their plans? It's easy to talk about "infinite choices" when you have a foundation of privilege or haven't faced a setback that throws everything off course. Sure, effort matters a lot, but dismissing the impact of luck feels a bit dismissive of the very real challenges people face. Maybe success is a choice, but sometimes the options available are limited by circumstances outside your control.
By Barongo Mosera
#461228
In my thoughts success is a feeling and that this feeling(state of mind) should not be equated with money or fame. Instead, it should be measured based on satisfaction. In this view success is personal and emotional.

Success in this has nothing to do with how much money you make or how famous you are. Instead, it's about being happy and satisfied with your accomplishments and how you feel about your life. If you can honestly say that you are proud of your accomplishments, no matter how big, then you have succeeded.

This interpretation of success places the focus on personal fulfilment and self-assessment, acknowledging that everyone’s definition of success can vary. It encourages a more holistic and inner-oriented perspective on what it means to lead a successful life.
By Gerrard Mark
#461302
Succes is sometimes not a choice. Let's say someone us born with down syndrome. And has no way of taking care of himself. How will that kind of person succeed. His succes will greatly be determined by those around him.
By Diana Akinyi Aginga 1
#461612
I agree. Every day, people are faced with decisions that can influence their paths. Embracing success involves making choices that propel one forward, even if they require short-term sacrifices for long-term gains.
By Sonia Lurk
#461624
These are unadulterated facts! In my opinion, if someone is going to embrace anything, they must unquestionably succeed in it. Our mindset is what propels us to success; we decide who we want to be by the choices we make.
By Elijah Reuben
#461700
Well, I suppose everyone wants to be successful. I mean, who wants to be unsuccessful? Nobody! People who are not successful, does it mean that they don't work hard enough? I believe life isn't fair to everyone.
By Ray Thompson
#461702
Oleabhiele Joseph wrote: November 14th, 2023, 5:29 am Someone told me this; “90% of people who gets good grades at school end up financially handicap. They invest their time and energy in school, and when the labor market doesn’t absolve them, they are left without a cause.” I strongly object to this. I know a lot of people who were academically smart, got good grades, and finished college with no jobs for them. But they took it upon themselves to find success in any place available. Do you agree with that person? Are intelligent people fooled by their academic success that they end up without enough training for the real world, being left for broke when they don’t get their dream jobs?
This is not true because many people make different choices regardless of their academic excellence. The aim is to be smart and know what true success is.
In It Together review: https://forums.onlinebookclub.org/viewt ... p?t=538089
By Nyangor Otieno
#461749
I think this perspective is compelling but oversimplified. It rightly emphasizes the importance of personal agency and the power of making deliberate choices towards achieving goals. I accept, mindset and effort are significant factors in success, and adopting a proactive, responsible approach can lead to substantial achievements.
In It Together review: https://forums.onlinebookclub.org/viewt ... p?t=504373
By Nyangor Otieno
#461750
Nyangor Otieno wrote: May 8th, 2024, 2:53 am I think this perspective is compelling but oversimplified. It rightly emphasizes the importance of personal agency and the power of making deliberate choices towards achieving goals. I accept, mindset and effort are significant factors in success, and adopting a proactive, responsible approach can lead to substantial achievements.
However, equating success purely with choice might not account for the full complexity of human experiences. Various external factors play crucial roles in shaping opportunities and outcomes. For instance, economic conditions, educational opportunities, discrimination, and random life events can all significantly impact one's ability to achieve goals.
In It Together review: https://forums.onlinebookclub.org/viewt ... p?t=504373
By Nyangor Otieno
#461752
Nyangor Otieno wrote: May 8th, 2024, 2:54 am
Nyangor Otieno wrote: May 8th, 2024, 2:53 am I think this perspective is compelling but oversimplified. It rightly emphasizes the importance of personal agency and the power of making deliberate choices towards achieving goals. I accept, mindset and effort are significant factors in success, and adopting a proactive, responsible approach can lead to substantial achievements.
However, equating success purely with choice might not account for the full complexity of human experiences. Various external factors play crucial roles in shaping opportunities and outcomes. For instance, economic conditions, educational opportunities, discrimination, and random life events can all significantly impact one's ability to achieve goals.
These, as we know, are not always within an individual's control and can sometimes require more than just personal effort to overcome.
In It Together review: https://forums.onlinebookclub.org/viewt ... p?t=504373
By Nyangor Otieno
#461753
Moreover, success is subjective and culturally variable. What constitutes success for one person might not be the same for another. It's also multidimensional—someone might choose to prioritize family or personal well-being over career advancement, which might not conventionally be seen as 'success' but is equally valid.
In It Together review: https://forums.onlinebookclub.org/viewt ... p?t=504373
By pokey Jake
#461796
Success, in my opinion, is a decision because, despite the obstacles, if you decide to pursue success and put in the necessary work, you will undoubtedly succeed.
By Florence Amimo Osiema
#461851
When we look at it from an angle, this may be both true or not. Success with the right tools and in the right circumstance is a choice. But in the wrong circumstances, it is not.
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