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cynicallyinsane wrote:We can't know what happens when we die, because nobody dead can tell us. We can't talk to the dead!thats untrue people called mediums talk to the dead and if you think a medium ifs too metaphysical to be real you probably shouldn't be on this forum. Not saying that you do, but just in case.
luciditee wrote:I would say that whatever person I think I may be, whatever personality or identity that seems to be 'me', this would no longer exist when I die. At the same time, however, I would say that all these imaginary constructions that I refer to as 'me' are not what they seem in the first place; they are simply ideas and beliefs to which I have become attached, and which heighten the apparent difference between myself and others. This difference, however, is not the highest reality of our being, which in fact is the pure undifferentiated awareness that each and every one of us were born into this world with. In that moment, this body was born, but not this 'self'. This self is merely a figment of my imagination, and so I was never born, and therefore I can never die.luciditee, that is a good difference to point out. We can define our "selves" in such a fundamental way that we see ourselves as something more universal than our individual body alone. Nonetheless, when most people ask, "what happens when we die," they just mean the same old individual version of 'self' that most people mean when they say it. Generally speaking, they are just referring to the personality and information stored in their brains.
pjkeeley wrote:Amen. And the "mediums" I've seen aren't even that convincing.thats untrue people called mediums talk to the deadNo, people called mediums CLAIM to talk to the dead... big difference!
bittercrank wrote:Oh, I though everybody knew...
They wrap you in a greasy sheet
and throw you down some 50 feet
the worms crawl in, the worms crawl out
the worms play pinochle on your snout
and so forth.
By the way, why would I want to talk to the dead? I didn't like most of them when they were alive.
Note to literalists: Just joking.
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